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Thursday, August 24, 2006

A Modest Proposal

Autonomous Arab Regions within the boundaries of Eretz Yisrael. An idea whose time has come.

I know, I know, it's been thought of before. But always on such a limited scale. The Land of Israel is far larger than the small part we are happen to call our homeland at the present time. At some stage, we're going to have to start taking responsibility for the other parts of the land God gave us.

Certainly, we have no interest in imposing direct rule over lands which are heavily populated by non-Jews. But it behooves us to make the point that this land is ours, even though we are content to allow the native populace to rule themselves.

Looking at the map, we can see the following autonomous regions:
  • The Sinai Autonomous Region
    Egypt would be considered responsible for maintaining order in the SiAR. The President of Egypt would be considered the Israeli governor of that region, and a token stipend sent to him each year for services rendered.
  • The Jordanian Autonomous Region
    The Jordanian monarchy would be one of the three hereditary governorships of autonomous regions, along with the monarchy ruling the Arabian Autonomous Region and the rulers of the Syrian Autonomous Region. It is currently divided into 52 districts (link).
  • The Lebanese Autonomous Region
    It may be worthwhile to divide the LAR into two districts, or even into separate autonomous regions, using the Litani River as a boundary. In this way, the regional government of the LAR north of the Litani could be dealt with separately from that of the area south of the Litani, which might, if the unrest continues, be replaced with direct administration.
  • The Arabian Autonomous Region
    This consists primarily of the Al Hudud ash Shamaliyah and Al Jawf provinces of what is otherwise known as the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia.
  • The Syrian Autonomous Region
    The SyAR consists of 11 of the 14 governorates currently governed by Damascus: Damascus, Rif Dimashq, Quneitra, Dara, As Suwayda, Homs, Tartous, Latakia, Hama, Idlib and Aleppo. Note that parts of Quneitra are already under direct Israeli rule.
  • The Turkish Autonomous Region
    This is a very small part of the area controlled by the government of Turkey.
  • The Iraqi Autonomous Region
    With the current changes in the makeup of Iraq, it's difficult to pin down precisely which governorates would be included in the IAR.

Once all of this is set down on paper, and the local authorities apprised of their responsibilities as governors of parts of Eretz Yisrael, we can deal with "land for peace" issues in a more seemly manner.

Edit: This is a scan I found online of one of the maps from Rabbi Yisrael Ariel's multi-volume Atlas of the Boundaries of Eretz Yisrael. They're in Hebrew, and there may be more than the two volumes I have, but if so, I haven't seen them.


Blogger Steg (dos iz nit der šteg) said...

Where dd that horizontal line connecting Eilat and Basra come from?

Growing up i always saw the ideal Eretz Yisrael's eastern border be in Jordan, or around Jordan's eastern border.

Now i see all these maps that cover the desert. When did that start?

6:35 PM  
Blogger Lisa said...

I added a copy I found online of a scan from one of R' Ariel's books on the subject. They're worth reading.

10:05 AM  
Blogger Milhouse said...

I don't see where he gets the idea that the eastern border follows the Euphrates all the way down to the Persian Gulf. The Euphrates is not the eastern border of Israel, it's the north-eastern corner; the border touches the Euphrates somewhere around what is now Lake Assad, and then proceeds southwest to the Golan Heights. Damascus is outside the border.

4:16 AM  
Blogger kepipesiom said...

Much of this map shows lands that are not yet the inheritance of the Jewish people, and are reserved for the future. From Nahar Mitztayim unto the Great River Peras. This can mean from Wadi El Arish to the Eupherates as it flows down in what is now Syria. Or, it can mean from teh source of the Nile all the way to the outflow of the Eupherates in the Persian Gulf. I prefer the latter. But that is all for the future. For now, Erez Yisrael is still far larger than the boundaries of the State of Israel, even if much of the Negev is really outside of Erez Yisrael.

I am not too keen on the idea of giving any of these Arabs any kind of autonomy. They have repeatedly shown what they will do with it, and there is no reason to expect they will change anytime soon. Geirei Toshabh are accepted only whan the Yobhel laws are in effect.

8:35 PM  
Blogger herhavzundibiayndir said...

A modest proposal? You are all completely delusional. It's obvious that such a tragedy will never take place.

Good dreaming...

7:11 PM  
Blogger Mikewind Dale said...

I also do not understand this horizontal southern border.

It seems clear to me (not having done any geographic research) that similar to Israel during David's time, the point is that Israel will go east somewhere slightly past the Jordan (like in the Biblical era), and go north to the Euphrates, including Lebanon, and part of Syria.

The long horizontal line seems illogical. It conforms to no natural borders, and a person could just as easily draw the line even further south, to include the entire Arabian peninsula as "Israel".

11:15 AM  

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