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Monday, May 08, 2006

Dog Owners Suck

Pardon me. I suppose not all dog owners do, but I find it interesting that so many dog owners think that just because they've chosen to adopt an animal, other people need to be afflicted by that choice.

Yesterday, I went with my partner and our daughter to a beach. Turns out that there was a pilot "dog beach" next to this one, fence and all. A place where dogs could be let off their leashes without incurring a fine.

Is that enough for the dog owners? Of course not. There were dogs all over the human beach, mostly unleashed. At one point, we were trying to shoo a large dog away, and the "human" who owned it came up and called the dog away, saying, "Come on away from those mean people."

Mean people. He doesn't know the half of it.

Animals belong in the wild, in a zoo, or on my table, well seasoned. And while I have a hard time understanding the pet-owner mentality, dog owners are far and a way the worst. People who have to be forced by law not to let their animals take dumps on public sidewalks. They're like smokers, who think they have some God given right to drop their cigarette butts wherever they like.


Blogger Needsabetterjob said...

I agree, but this type of thinking always either depresses me, or is a sign that I am going into a depression. Now that's a problem.

Oh Yeah, how about cell phone talking in public.

Yesterday going home, a comic moment for you.

I am sitting on the train it is quite except for this one woman. She is asian looking. She is apparently not a US citizen, so she finally got some cruddy admin assistant job w/ a foreign consulate that will allow her to stay.
She calls all of her friends with the great news. W/ Each one, she to explain where Mozambique is.

Then again she was sorta hot to look at. I guess there is an unwritten rule, that if you talk in public, the unhapppy audience members are allowed to stare at you, since they are part of the conversation.
Oh yeah sorry, the gutter again,

3:20 PM  
Blogger Lisa said...


3:52 PM  
Blogger Needsabetterjob said...

Whatever. Some appreciate me, others don't. I thought you were friendly.

7:24 AM  
Blogger Lisa said...

Um... it isn't a matter of friendly or not friendly. Do you just post random comments on blogs that don't relate to the blog entry?

My first thought was that Blogger had messed up and that you'd meant to post that to a different blog. That it was like getting signals crossed on a phone.

But I guess not.

9:39 AM  
Blogger Needsabetterjob said...

The topic was about dog owners, to which you also added "They're like smokers, who think they have some God given right to drop their cigarette butts wherever they like."

I agree w/ the whole thrust of the discussion and wanted to add about cell phone users.

The point of the whine was that people have some strange habits. My add was that cell phones belong w/ this group. I mean in terms of how most of the conversations go. Ways to fill boredom time, so that you are disturbing the peace of others, w/ non -essential chit chat.

Is this clear now ?

11:10 AM  
Blogger Lisa said...

Ah. Pardon my denseness. I totally agree.

11:19 AM  
Blogger Needsabetterjob said...

No prob. U should hear some of these conversations.

This brings to mind another group, about parenting.

Some parents have this situation w/ one or more of their kids. The child is not fitting in the mold, not doing exactly what you did, e.g. go to college, want to be a professional,etc.
So they insist on bemoaning this problem to the whole office, on a incident by incident basis, instead of dealing w/ the real issue, their own reaction.

I guess the only thing is to learn from mistakes.

11:51 AM  
Blogger Needsabetterjob said...

One thing I like about your comments in general is pointing out about the gutter, how it comes up all the time.

In my case, I must admit I am constantly staring after hot women I see on the street. Not that I am that frum, but I am traditional, affiliated, observe alot, etc.
but this one thing has got the better of me.

I will often alter my walk from the trains, based on who I am following.

Any ideas on how to rectify?

11:53 AM  
Blogger Lisa said...

Okay, I think that's the part that's confusing me. I don't even remember the last time I typed or said the word "gutter".

Are you sure you're talking about me? I don't really know what you mean.

And what's with all the "I see hot people" stuff? I mean, if you realize that you're ogling and you want to do something about it, just don't do that. Think about something else. Or try and think of people as being people, and not just examples of hotness. There's a lot of beauty in the world. Focus on parts of it that might be more appropriate.

12:23 PM  
Blogger Needsabetterjob said...

Yeah, i just thought of your answer after I typed it.
No need to abuse. Take in the beauty, the aura, the spark, for one second and move on, abuse is in the oggling.
Ding Ding Ding...

I thought you posted 'gutter' in other places lately, but maybe I am mistaken :) I am sorry to have taken up your time w/ this shtus.

1:51 PM  
Blogger Joe Settler said...

I just visitied a beautiful apartment complex in Jerusalem. It has well trimmed grass lawns, bushes, and flower beds all over.

Across the street is an empty dirt lot (eventually to be a park) with some weeds and stuff.

Guess which of the two was filled with doggie doo (and it wasn't the empty lot).

3:00 AM  
Blogger Lisa said...

I know. And the general ethos in Israel that says "the rules don't really apply to me" must make that even worse.

I like your blog, btw. I just added it to my list.

7:32 AM  
Blogger shore said...

I just wandered into your blog and found the Judaic studies to be of interest. I've picked up more info regarding Orthodox Judaism in the past few minutes than I absorbed in my time at Hebrew School in Rogers Park during the Eisenhower Presidency.

However, dog owners do not suck! The vast majority control their animals and are judicious in removing any waste. The loyalty and love exhibited by the dog has made them a fixture in Western culture.

12:51 PM  
Blogger Lisa said...

Hi shore,

I know not all dog owners suck. I was irked when I wrote that.

Rogers Park? Like in Chicago? That's where I live. I wasn't born during the Eisenhower years, though.

1:02 PM  
Blogger shore said...

Sorry, I probably over reacted to the pet issue.
Yes, I initially attended Hebrew at KINS on California Ave, but later moved to Anshe Motele. The latter had lower tuition and was a bit closer to home. As you may know, at that time about 15 synagogues sat along Cal Ave from Peterson to Howard Street.
The writer, Irving Cutler had said that W Rogers was the largest Jewish neighborhood in the Midwest during the 60s.

3:03 PM  

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